Ultimate Axiom

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  JW Literature... Lots of it... what to burn and what to keep?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i have lots and lots of watchtower literature... and i don't know what could be useful in the future to have as a reference or as a keeper.

  i am definitely keeping the 1993 and 1994 bound volumes of the awake!

  (no, we are not false prophets... down in the same page, the generation of 1914 will not pass... also the youths who put god the watchtower first).

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  Personally I wouldn't burn it, I wish I had kept all of mine, but I left it with my first wife who's still in, and has probably thrown most of it out anyway. It may be "wall-to-wall BS" but it's one of our best tools in exposing that BS. Imagine if none of it existed anywhere anymore, how would we prove their lies?
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  2014 DC Release (Unofficial Rumors)

  by WatchTower87 in

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  mi first prophecy:.

  friday afternoon: 4:20 teach your children to love gods kingdom!

  new book/brochure for children based on the articles "teach your children" (appeared in watchtower public edition).

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  Hi processor - no I didn't see the update, thanks for that, it makes everything so much clearer.
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  Governing Bodies Secret Elder's training video on suicide leaked

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  watchtower minions have pulled down jwsurveys links .

  here's another one .. the gb should be held liable for this crap.

  http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/shepherding_instructional_suicidal_widow.avi.

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  2014 DC Release (Unofficial Rumors)

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mi first prophecy:.

  friday afternoon: 4:20 teach your children to love gods kingdom!

  new book/brochure for children based on the articles "teach your children" (appeared in watchtower public edition).

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  Friday morning 10:20 Symposium: Appreciating the Thrones of Divine Rulership. How about the release of Thrones for the GB?
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  China To Be Number 1 This Year ! OMG!

  by metatron in

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  http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d79ffff8-cfb7-11e3-9b2b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz30n0eglxv.

  i nearly dropped my coffee on the floor!

  this ain't some goofy conspiracy site.. let the scots vote themselves independence and finish off "anglo-america".. .

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  I'm surprised you're surprised - this has been on the cards for the past decade, it's just a matter of time. And I'm sure those geniuses in Brooklyn will come up with some new light to explain it – perhaps China is the 8th World Power that will destroy Babylon the Great, then the Watchtower could go back and join the UN.
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  The Creation of Eve

  by jws in

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  for those of you who believe in the bible, have you ever seriously thought about the events that led up to the creation of eve?.

  genesis 2 - 18 the lord god said, it is not good for the man to be alone.

  i will make a helper suitable for him.. .

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  Perry said, "Of course he was present because he is omnipresent."

  The Watchtower disagrees, “The Bible does not teach that God is omnipresent, or present everywhere at all times,” (Awake! May 2013, page 15).
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  Are all JWs united in their beliefs?

  by enigma1863 in

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  so i used to think that all witnesses believed the same exact thing but i have heard some claims that they believe things i'm not familiar with.

  do you know if it's true?

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  I doubt very much if there is any religion on earth where all the adherents believe the same thing. In some this is tolerated, even encouraged, in others, like JWs of course, it's the opposite. Obviously JWs all believe the same core doctrines, (no trinity, no hell, no immortal spirit, these are the last days, the GB are semi-divine etc, etc), but there are bound to be differences on peripheral doctrine, because, as someone has already said, most of them don’t even know what the full set of doctrines is. And even is they did, they would still have to go back to the latest Watchtower on the subject to make sure their belief is up to date.
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  The Creation of Eve

  by jws in

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  for those of you who believe in the bible, have you ever seriously thought about the events that led up to the creation of eve?.

  genesis 2 - 18 the lord god said, it is not good for the man to be alone.

  i will make a helper suitable for him.. .

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  Interesting jws, and I am one who hadn't seriously thought about it when he was a believer. Whatever actually happened, it was clear to God that he had created man incomlete, so he created a woman, and then man was finished.
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  How many here (believers) believe in the Hell fire doctrine and why??

  by jam in

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  it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.

  "cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.

  "lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".

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  Why is it everytime a Christian, muslim etc etc.. say something it will offend the athiests?

  Nothing Christians or Muslims say 'offends' the average atheist - unlike of course the Christians and Muslims who can get whipped up into a murderous frenzy when their cherished prophet is ridiculed by an atheist.

  As regards hell, I was seriously offended by that slanderous teaching when I was a Christian, now that I no longer believe it doesn't offend me in the slightest, and nor does anything else a believer has to say.
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  "The Devil is at Work!"

  by HeyThere in

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  i consider myself a christian.

  seriously did not even think that jw was that much different...but now i know better and it has my mind spinning.

  i have stopped answering questions, say my own prayers to god at the meetings, and plastr on a fake smile.

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  Ultimate Axiom

  HeyThere, you face a difficult task, because even when you point out some perfectly good advice in a WT publication, a JW will find it almost impossible to apply it to the FDS. e.g “when exposed to unscriptural teachings, regardless of the source, we must decisively reject them.” (Watchtower, July 15, 2014, page 14). “Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a ‘prophet’ of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?” (Watchtower, April 1, 1972, page 197).

  And this Awake! paragraph is absolutely correct - “there have been those in times past who predicted an “end to the world,” even announcing a specific date. Yet, nothing happened. The “end” did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying.” (Awake! October 8, 1968, page 23).

  And as all fulfilment of the 1914 generation prophecy has now passed, a quote from one of Rutherford’s books fits perfectly, “If these prophesies have not been fulfilled, and if all possibility of fulfilment is past, then these prophets are proven false”. (Prophecy, 1929, page 22).

  But as Kate said, JWfacts.com has got loads of this sort of material.